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		<title>By: Lose Weight in a Week</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lose Weight in a Week</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very remarkable entry to hang on.. I am very impressed with this article. Looking forward for future posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very remarkable entry to hang on.. I am very impressed with this article. Looking forward for future posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Library clips :: KM 2.0 culture :: August :: 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>Library clips :: KM 2.0 culture :: August :: 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 05:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are known as the goto person&#8230;power is in sharing) - job value and description and mission (how do you measure my sourcing skills using networks&#8230;good info quick&#8230;altruistic&#8230;how do you measure [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Library clips :: Seven ways enterprise 2.0 differs from web 2.0 :: July :: 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>Library clips :: Seven ways enterprise 2.0 differs from web 2.0 :: July :: 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gia Lyons was contemplating whether to go the social route on a task or to keep it to herself, as she isn&#8217;t measured on how well she uses her network, she says, &#8220;&#8230;there is a direct correlation between the number of assets I create in a quarter, and my quarterly bonus&#8230;&#8221;. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Irregular Enterprise mobile edition</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irregular Enterprise mobile edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we already know, business users have a broad range of concerns including the ever present: &#8216;What&#8217;s in it for me?&#8216; syndrome. Most of the projects I see more closely reflect Nielsen&#8217;s 1:9:90 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] we already know, business users have a broad range of concerns including the ever present: &#8216;What&#8217;s in it for me?&#8216; syndrome. Most of the projects I see more closely reflect Nielsen&#8217;s 1:9:90 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: thecapacity</title>
		<link>http://www.giatalks.com/2008/03/individual-measurements-in-a-social-world-adoption-obstacle/comment-page-1/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>thecapacity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a topic near and dear... I think it&#039;s IBM&#039;s biggest barrier to innovation and retention.

It&#039;s worthy of a whole conference...

A few thoughts;
The contrarian; Why does IBM need to explicitly reward collaboration? If it&#039;s really so great shouldn&#039;t it&#039;s impact be felt on the traditional measures?

This is kind of the &quot;OpenSource&quot; approach, sometimes bastards write good code and they&#039;re accepted into the community, but normally the &quot;nice guys&quot; get farther ahead.

I don&#039;t think that&#039;s a 100% great answer, and if you think about history and the &quot;personality&quot; types approach (Innovator, Developer, Connector, Influencer, etc...) you know it&#039;s very probable that people get credit for your work and you get nothing for being such a kind, caring, connected and hard working individual.

But there&#039;s two flaws integrating it into performance... as subdigit said, if you mandate participation you&#039;ll get crap. Also it&#039;s unlikely that anyone @ IBM would have said (and likely still rare) that &quot;Oh, you&#039;re twittering ... that makes total sense, keep up the good work&quot;.

Rules by nature (or tenancy) suppress the unknown.

So I think the goal is to (A) Recognize an employee&#039;s influence through all channels .. (B) Not force that participation.

You said &quot;You can&#039;t give a raise to a group&quot; and I know someone will usually bear the weight (or the lesser) of the effort... but I disagree. If my team does well on a project why shouldn&#039;t we all win together? And if we lose, maybe the weak get recognized and culled...

Why give guaranteed raises? Why are &quot;Thanks you were a big help&quot; awards limited to generic stuff and not actual cash?

If employees could use the same social techniques to recognize a helpful contribution that we&#039;re now using to collaborate, then perhaps it would be easy to see how the financial incentives should flow...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a topic near and dear&#8230; I think it&#8217;s IBM&#8217;s biggest barrier to innovation and retention.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s worthy of a whole conference&#8230;</p>
<p>A few thoughts;<br />
The contrarian; Why does IBM need to explicitly reward collaboration? If it&#8217;s really so great shouldn&#8217;t it&#8217;s impact be felt on the traditional measures?</p>
<p>This is kind of the &#8220;OpenSource&#8221; approach, sometimes bastards write good code and they&#8217;re accepted into the community, but normally the &#8220;nice guys&#8221; get farther ahead.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a 100% great answer, and if you think about history and the &#8220;personality&#8221; types approach (Innovator, Developer, Connector, Influencer, etc&#8230;) you know it&#8217;s very probable that people get credit for your work and you get nothing for being such a kind, caring, connected and hard working individual.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s two flaws integrating it into performance&#8230; as subdigit said, if you mandate participation you&#8217;ll get crap. Also it&#8217;s unlikely that anyone @ IBM would have said (and likely still rare) that &#8220;Oh, you&#8217;re twittering &#8230; that makes total sense, keep up the good work&#8221;.</p>
<p>Rules by nature (or tenancy) suppress the unknown.</p>
<p>So I think the goal is to (A) Recognize an employee&#8217;s influence through all channels .. (B) Not force that participation.</p>
<p>You said &#8220;You can&#8217;t give a raise to a group&#8221; and I know someone will usually bear the weight (or the lesser) of the effort&#8230; but I disagree. If my team does well on a project why shouldn&#8217;t we all win together? And if we lose, maybe the weak get recognized and culled&#8230;</p>
<p>Why give guaranteed raises? Why are &#8220;Thanks you were a big help&#8221; awards limited to generic stuff and not actual cash?</p>
<p>If employees could use the same social techniques to recognize a helpful contribution that we&#8217;re now using to collaborate, then perhaps it would be easy to see how the financial incentives should flow&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Aneel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aneel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 00:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gia, some thoughts:

- There are some people--many, in fact--who will *not* see the value in great social contribution or networking.  You better accept that as a fact and move on.

- There are sometimes immediate returns on your time investment in social stuff.. and I think those can always be quantified in terms of time saved.  E.g. Being able to get to the right people, or convince someone of a thing, etc., in short order due to the relationships + trust established via these kinds of activities.  That&#039;s an easy thing to record--though practically impossible to verify--thus easy to reward.

- Most of the time though, the measureable returns come after longer scale time investments.  Longer scale thinking or investments are *not* generally supported in the modern, short-sighted, quarter-by-quarter-driven corporate environment.  At least not below the senior executive level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gia, some thoughts:</p>
<p>- There are some people&#8211;many, in fact&#8211;who will *not* see the value in great social contribution or networking.  You better accept that as a fact and move on.</p>
<p>- There are sometimes immediate returns on your time investment in social stuff.. and I think those can always be quantified in terms of time saved.  E.g. Being able to get to the right people, or convince someone of a thing, etc., in short order due to the relationships + trust established via these kinds of activities.  That&#8217;s an easy thing to record&#8211;though practically impossible to verify&#8211;thus easy to reward.</p>
<p>- Most of the time though, the measureable returns come after longer scale time investments.  Longer scale thinking or investments are *not* generally supported in the modern, short-sighted, quarter-by-quarter-driven corporate environment.  At least not below the senior executive level.</p>
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		<title>By: Gia Lyons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gia Lyons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 13:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff, Neil! I would also like to hear from the people who dream up compensation programs... any of you out there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff, Neil! I would also like to hear from the people who dream up compensation programs&#8230; any of you out there?</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Burston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Burston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gia
This is a VERY interesting and important topic about how to reward people for contributing to a community when it is not directly measurable via hard Dollars [or hard Euros if you want to use a &quot;proper&quot; currency in this turbulent economic climate! ;-) ]

So clearly we know what this is not easy, but has anyone got any valid contributions they would like to make public about what it SHOULD be done?

I for one would like to see people who act as network bridges recognized for the value they bring but often it is too intangible and far away from the final transaction to be measured and tracked back.

It IS currently difficult for organizations to track and attach value to this sort of activity.  On the outside, is it &quot;personal marketing&quot; that through a process of Emergence bubbles up into a &quot;group marketing&quot; that benefits an organization, on the inside, is it a way of making connections and helping liberate new innovation with transformational ideas?

Also we need to discuss the impact on extended value chains.  I was in a meeting the other day when someone made the comment that they did not consider themselves as part of a startup of 10 but part of a value chain of 200 people(or words to that effect) – how do you start to measure the impact of something in that level of complexity?

Questions, questions, and much uncharted water!  Ever felt like the guys before Columbus, not daring to stray too far from shoreline into deeper waters?  Someone must be developing the answers to some of these questions, we’ve done it before, we’ll do it again, but it is going to be an interesting voyage of discovery.  .

A great topic for someone&#039;s Thesis or next book, unless the material is out there and I haven&#039;t found it yet . . . I look forward to hearing about more interesting signposts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gia<br />
This is a VERY interesting and important topic about how to reward people for contributing to a community when it is not directly measurable via hard Dollars [or hard Euros if you want to use a "proper" currency in this turbulent economic climate! <img src='http://www.giatalks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ]</p>
<p>So clearly we know what this is not easy, but has anyone got any valid contributions they would like to make public about what it SHOULD be done?</p>
<p>I for one would like to see people who act as network bridges recognized for the value they bring but often it is too intangible and far away from the final transaction to be measured and tracked back.</p>
<p>It IS currently difficult for organizations to track and attach value to this sort of activity.  On the outside, is it &#8220;personal marketing&#8221; that through a process of Emergence bubbles up into a &#8220;group marketing&#8221; that benefits an organization, on the inside, is it a way of making connections and helping liberate new innovation with transformational ideas?</p>
<p>Also we need to discuss the impact on extended value chains.  I was in a meeting the other day when someone made the comment that they did not consider themselves as part of a startup of 10 but part of a value chain of 200 people(or words to that effect) – how do you start to measure the impact of something in that level of complexity?</p>
<p>Questions, questions, and much uncharted water!  Ever felt like the guys before Columbus, not daring to stray too far from shoreline into deeper waters?  Someone must be developing the answers to some of these questions, we’ve done it before, we’ll do it again, but it is going to be an interesting voyage of discovery.  .</p>
<p>A great topic for someone&#8217;s Thesis or next book, unless the material is out there and I haven&#8217;t found it yet . . . I look forward to hearing about more interesting signposts</p>
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		<title>By: The good and bad of selling to global IT: a primer. &#171; Connected</title>
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		<dc:creator>The good and bad of selling to global IT: a primer. &#171; Connected</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gia Lyons</title>
		<link>http://www.giatalks.com/2008/03/individual-measurements-in-a-social-world-adoption-obstacle/comment-page-1/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>Gia Lyons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephan, agreed. Want to know what prompted this blog post? I was asked to write best practices for preparing for pre-sales, &quot;quasi-production&quot; installations of IBM Lotus Connections. In short, it&#039;s just project management stuff (governance, scheduling, etc).

Now, I am one of thousands in IBM who have enough experience to write those best practices. My first inclination was to set up a wiki and invite my colleagues to help me write them.

But, since there is a direct correlation between the number of assets I create in a quarter, and my quarterly bonus, I stayed my hand.

It&#039;s been over a week now, and I&#039;ve done nothing yet. My next step is to talk to my manager about how she will measure me if I go the participatory route.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephan, agreed. Want to know what prompted this blog post? I was asked to write best practices for preparing for pre-sales, &#8220;quasi-production&#8221; installations of IBM Lotus Connections. In short, it&#8217;s just project management stuff (governance, scheduling, etc).</p>
<p>Now, I am one of thousands in IBM who have enough experience to write those best practices. My first inclination was to set up a wiki and invite my colleagues to help me write them.</p>
<p>But, since there is a direct correlation between the number of assets I create in a quarter, and my quarterly bonus, I stayed my hand.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been over a week now, and I&#8217;ve done nothing yet. My next step is to talk to my manager about how she will measure me if I go the participatory route.</p>
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