Comments on: Social Media is from Mars, Enterprise 2.0 is from Venus

By: Smooshing Enterprise 2.0 and Social Media Together » Connected

Smooshing Enterprise 2.0 and Social Media Together » Connected — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:56:35 +0000

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By: Dan

Dan — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:41:03 +0000

Gia, Have you explored Value Network Analysis?
http://www.valuenetworkanalysis.com. I have been reading about companies who are using VNA as a tool to map and value relationships and associated intangibles like TRUST inside organizations and even business ecosystems.

By: La resistencia al cambio « If you can trust yourself…

La resistencia al cambio « If you can trust yourself… — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:47:54 +0000

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By: Gia Lyons

Gia Lyons — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 03:26:10 +0000

Thierry de Baillon said:

“We still, I guess, lack some of the tools necessary for redesigning these processes, but trust, on the other hand, is supposedly given inside a company, or at least much more easy to earn than on the outside counterpart.”

I’d almost argue that the opposite is true in some cases. There is a certain element of “co-opetition” (cooperation + competition) that exists in corporate cultures, which I think can be effective or corrosive, depending on where you work.

By: Gia Lyons

Gia Lyons — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 03:23:37 +0000

Dennis, agreed, the words we’re using are new, as is some of the technology, but the NEED for them isn’t. “Enterprise 2.0″ is simply the daughter of “Knowledge Management” to me, but a bit smarter and a bit prettier.

By: Gia Lyons

Gia Lyons — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 03:20:52 +0000

Anne-mette said:

“It’s worth keeping in mind though, that ‘Enterprise 2.0′ and ’social media’ ARE two different things and there’s a pretty good reason social media marketing and enterprise 2.0 people talk slightly different languages. They operate in different spheres under fundamentally different conditions.”

Completely agree with you, which may seem contrary to my original post. There are definitely different conditions, which I doubt will ever change.

Your comment sparked this thought:

We are “in it together” with our prospects and customers. But, in many cases, we COMPETE with our fellow colleagues. I have clients who promote competition within their culture, in fact.

Light Bulb Moment (LBM)!

By: 12Sided, The Blog » Solid read: Social Media is from Mars…

12Sided, The Blog » Solid read: Social Media is from Mars… — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:06:40 +0000

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By: Dennis Stevenson

Dennis Stevenson — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:53:20 +0000

Gia,

I think it’s important to note that “Enterprise 2.0″ has only been around as long as 2 average SAP deployments. That’s not very long. While you point out really good issues of language vocabulary and hence understanding, I think we’re still pretty early in this dialog – when considered from the Big Picture. http://bit.ly/iHu2R

Dennis

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Peter Imbres » Blog Archive » Fresh From Twitter — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:54:11 +0000

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By: Thierry de Baillon

Thierry de Baillon — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:00:38 +0000

Gia,
I don’t think that Enterprise 2.0 and Social Media are two different things. Words are dangerous traps in fact (talked today with @thebrandbuilder about it). Difference lay neither on our objectives, nor on the tools, but in our state of mind when integrating them. You could say it’s all vendor’s pitch.
SM power doesn’t reside in the “connecting people” aspect of it, (the nodes), but in the information flows (the links). And it is of course easy to integrate in customer service or in marketing channel, where the two other main bricks which are part of the enterprise: knowledge and decision-taking, are implicit or straightforward, and much more difficult to deal with in core busines processes.
We still, I guess, lack some of the tools necessary for redesigning these processes, but trust, on the other hand, is supposedly given inside a company, or at least much more easy to earn than on the outside counterpart.
I already planned to blog myself about that later on this week, so I guess this conversation will as well go on there
Thierry